Caitlin Perry and I actually recorded this episode last week. We visited over waffles and everything. Then there were dropouts in the audio over some pretty meaningful context that we spoke about. So we ended up having to reschedule and have a completely different conversation. I also got pancakes. A highlight is I am slowly getting to spend time with each of my friend's dogs. I hope you enjoy this episode as Caitlin is a truly good human being. Please share this with someone you think might also enjoy our conversation. Thanks for all the support!