Something about this one just feels... off. Maybe it’s the state of the industry, maybe it’s the way the rep game is changing, or maybe it’s just too much poutine, but Chris, Jayson, and Jesse sit down in Dana Point to talk through it.

They get into the weird tension between business and relationships, what happens when manufacturers make decisions that don’t sit right, and why the CI world isn’t just numbers on a spreadsheet. It’s honest, a little messy, and exactly the kind of conversation that happens when you stop pretending everything’s fine. Also, Matty’s Patties.