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EPISODE 5:Your Story Is the Strategy God Wants to Use| Kevin Spencer Wilson

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Episode Overview:


In this powerful episode, Jose sits down with author, digital storyteller, and cultural bridge-builder Kevin Spencer Wilson—better known as Cross Culture Kev—to explore the truth that your story isn’t just part of your journey—it’s the strategy God wants to use.

From arriving in the U.S. alone at 18 to becoming the CEO of Chai and author of The Way of Chai, Kevin shares a deeply personal journey of reinvention, resilience, grief, and grace.

Together, they dive into how suffering shapes the soul, how to reclaim your story as a leader, and why the very things you once saw as liabilities might be the superpowers God intends to use for impact.

If you’re navigating change, healing from pain, or searching for your voice in leadership—this conversation will remind you: God doesn’t waste your story. He works through it.

Topics Covered:

  • The sacred practice of reinvention
  • Grief as the strongest memory of joy
  • Leading with story and presence in a world addicted to pressure
  • Taking up space with humility
  • Why your identity is your greatest asset
  • Embracing your leadership voice as someone from the global majority

    • Scriptures Referenced

    • Hebrews 2:10 – “For in bringing many sons and daughters to glory, it was entirely appropriate that God… should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through sufferings.”
    • Psalm 34:18 – “The Lord is close to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit.”
    • C.S. Lewis Quote – “Pain is God’s megaphone to rouse a deaf world.”
    • Romans 8:17 (Implied) – “...we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him.”

      • Quotes

      “Grief is not the absence of joy. It’s the strongest memory of joy.”

      “Art plus story equals trust.”

      “You were created because you were loved—not to be loved.”

      “Leadership isn’t about usefulness; it’s about belovedness.”

      “Practice curiosity. Lean into community. See every person as an invitation to wonder.”

      Extra Resources

      • Kevin’s Book: The Way of Chai by Kevin Wilson
      • Follow Kevin: @CrossCultureKev on Instagram | Website
      • Follow Jose on Instagram → @iamsaintphard
      • Kevin’s Newsletter: Monday Masala
      • Book Mentioned: The Courage to Be by Paul Tillich

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          4. Action Steps:

          1. Reflect: What parts of your story have you been hiding that God wants to use?
          2. Reframe: Stop seeing your uniqueness as a weakness—it’s your divine strategy.
          3. Share: Send this episode to someone who needs to be reminded they are already enough.
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