When it comes to configuration management frameworks, CFEngine is always part of the conversation. We talk with the father of the configuration management tool and the CTO of CFEngine Mark Burgess and CMO of CFEngine, Mark de Visser about CM, CM tools, where CM intersects business needs, and the trends affecting CM today. This, plus a discussion of the week's News & Views and a review of "The Facts & Fallacies of Software Engineering" by Robert L. Glass.