I’m talking with my friend, beat maker, fitness expert, and dad joke lover, John Winogrocki. We talk abut how his new record, preparing for becoming a dad, how we both got practice being isolated long before quarantine happened and how we worked at improving our mental health along that journey. How developing a new language is so incredibly important along the journey. 2020 put a spotlight on the differences many of us share with various family members. John shares the transformative way he dealt with that including how he owned his own part in the dynamic.