In this episode, TRR 318 speakers Prof. Katharina Rohlfing from Paderborn University and Prof. Philipp Cimiano from Bielefeld University reflect on the highlights, challenges, and surprises of the first funding phase. Together with moderator Prof. Britta Wrede, they discuss how their perspective on co-construction has evolved over the past four years and share their outlook on the next steps and future directions for TRR 318.