Certified Life Coach, Pastor and Speaker Deb Bolinger invites you on a journey from fire to refinement through conversations and teachings. In this episode, Deb is joined by Josh Napier, who has walked through trials in this life and has allowed God to use these times to refine him. It’s not until we are in the fire that we see God at work, so pull up a seat and join us around the fire for today's conversation.

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