In this episode Darth and I joined by Minna Ålander, an expert on both Finland and Germany as well as Arctic security.  We talk about German relations with Russia, nuclear blackmail, how China is apparently an arctic nation, and Macron's recent statements about the war.  Darth insisted that Minna decide between tea, sushi and perfume.

Katie: @kshmatsina

Minna: @minna_alander

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