Ever hear the word "Zemblanity" before?

Us either.

It wouldn't be the first time Eric Petersen taught us something new and it certainly won't be the last.

In a fascinating discussion, the guys sit down with the legendary (and famously private) WTBA contract lobbyist to talk through the wild state budget process, politics, and the ripple effects felt throughout the transportation world.

Oh, and then there were discussions about scooters, baseball bats, and liquor laws. Don't miss it.