Part two of the twins' conversation with Grammy-nominated singer/songwriter Cidny Bullens - starting from his first visit to Nashville (now his home with wife Tanya Taylor Rubinstein) to the unspeakable loss of his youngest daughter and the album that paid loving tribute to her - to his transition from Cindy to Cidny and his one-person show, his upcoming memoir and much more - including two more tracks from his 2020 album, "Walkin' Through This World"

SHOW NOTES:

0:00 - "Lucky For Me" by Cidny Bullens - From 2020 album, "Walkin' Through This World"

3:27 - Greetings and about the song / More about Cidny

5:00 - Welcome Cidny / COVID-19 situation in Nashville / Book progress - "TransElectric" due in 2023 - Preorders likely in Fall of 2022

8:09 - HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / Casey King / Cidny's presentation at 46:05 / Thoughts on recovery / Ice cream and tortilla chips

11:23 - Nashville experience continued / "Send Me an Angel" / David Mansfield / Emmylou Harris / Radney Foster / Bill Lloyd

15:15 - 1989 MCA album, "Cindy Bullens"

15:44 - First trip to Nashville / Writing with Foster and Lloyd / BMI head Roger Sovine / L.A. versus Nashville songwriting collaborations / Immediate acceptance in Nashville / Changes in approach to songwriting / Crafting the song

20:35 - Daughters Jessie and Reid / Losing Jessie to complications from Hodgkin's Lymphoma, 1996 / "Somewhere Between Heaven and Earth" single / Kye Fleming

25:15 - "In Better Hands" / "A Thousand Shades of Gray" / "The Lights of Paris" / Beth Nelson Chapman / Rodney Crowell

27:25 - 1999 album "Somewhere Between Heaven and Earth" / Lucinda Williams / Bonnie Raitt / Bryan Adams / Tony Berg / Danny Goldberg - Artemis Records / "Better Than I've Ever Been"

32:18 - The Refugees / Wendy Waldman / Deborah Holland / Animal Logic / Stewart Copeland / Stanley Clarke

37:05 - "Neverland" album / "Dream #29" album / Ray Kennedy / Steve Earle / Twang Trust / John Hiatt / Delbert McClinton / Elton John on piano on "Dream #29" single

39:05 - More about The Refugees / Work on new record in April / Blessed with supportive friends

41:08 - Transition begins 2011 / First public appearances 2012 / Appearances with The Refugees during this period / "Purgatory Road" / "Going into hiding" / Working at L.L. Bean warehouse in Maine

47:45 - 2014 Canadian gigs with Deborah Holland / More about The Refugees since transition

48:58 - One-person show, "Somewhere Between: Not An Ordinary Life" / Meeting wife Tanya Taylor Rubinstein, also director of the show and solo show coach

55:12 - First reading of show in Maine / Budding romance / Married in 2018

56:51 - About the 2020 album, "Walkin' Through This World" / "Purgatory Road" / "Little Pieces" / "The Gender Line"

59:48 - "Invisible" documentary / Songwriting process / Authenticity

1:05:13 - Discussing two awesome Cidny Bullens quotes

1:07:09 - About the song, "Sugartown"

1:10:26 - Wrapping it up / "TransElectric" memoir due in 2023 / Check out www.cidnybullens.com

1:11:35 - "Sugartown"