Independent pro wrestling is an experience that is part sports spectacle, part collaborative community theater, and wholly unique. This week on Serious Fun, Bryan sits down with TJ Bowles, long-time pro wrestling referee and General Manager of the Green Bay-based independent promotion Hybrid Wrestling Entertainment, to talk about what goes into a match from the moment fans enter the venue to the moment the last bell rings. Ever wondered what role a referee plays in a match? What about the importance of lighting and production values? How do wrestlers tell stories and engage with the crowd? How do wrestlers, referees, and promoters improvise on the fly when reality strikes? Whether you're a long-time "pro graps" fan, curious, or even skeptical, this week's show is for you.

Check out Hybrid Wrestling Entertainment on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HybridWrestlingEntertainment

Thanks to Kevin MacLeod for the outro music: https://incompetech.com