Join Mark, Richard, and part of Greg as they take <a href="http://www.ben.geek.nz/">Ben Gracewood</a> and <a href="http://www.fastchicken.co.nz/">Nic Wise</a> to task over Android's lack of "openness".
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.discourse.co.nz/2011/03/episode-24-no-fooling/">Discourse NZ - Episode 24 "No Fooling"</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd">The Open Source Definition</a></li>
<li><a href="http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page">Open Moko</a></li>
<li><a href="https://review.source.android.com/#q,status:open,n,z">Android SDK Patches/Reviews</a></li>
<li><a href="https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidtechnical.wp7pro">Windows Phone Android Launcher</a></li>
</ul>
Unfortunately Greg was also Skyping in and suffered hardware/mic issues - the audio has been cleaned up as much as I could, so bare with the issues.

Join Mark, Richard, and part of Greg as they take Ben Gracewood and Nic Wise to task over Android's lack of "openness". Discourse NZ - Episode 24 "No Fooling" The Open Source Definition Open Moko Android SDK Patches/Reviews Windows Phone Android Launcher Unfortunately Greg was also Skyping in and suffered hardware/mic issues - the audio has been cleaned up as much as I could, so bare with the issues.

Join Mark, Richard, and part of Greg as they take <a href="http://www.ben.geek.nz/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ben Gracewood</a> and <a href="http://www.fastchicken.co.nz/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Nic Wise</a> to task over Android's lack of "openness".
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.discourse.co.nz/2011/03/episode-24-no-fooling/" rel="noopener noreferrer">Discourse NZ - Episode 24 "No Fooling"</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd" rel="noopener noreferrer">The Open Source Definition</a></li>
<li><a href="http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page" rel="noopener noreferrer">Open Moko</a></li>
<li><a href="https://review.source.android.com/#q,status:open,n,z" rel="noopener noreferrer">Android SDK Patches/Reviews</a></li>
<li><a href="https://market.android.com/details?id=com.androidtechnical.wp7pro" rel="noopener noreferrer">Windows Phone Android Launcher</a></li>
</ul>
Unfortunately Greg was also Skyping in and suffered hardware/mic issues - the audio has been cleaned up as much as I could, so bare with the issues.

Episode 61 - Mobile Fisticuffs Part 1

Greg, Mark and Richard get together weekly and talk about things of interest in the Java community. Greg works for SimWorks (http://www.simworks.com) who specialize in mobile phone software. Mark works for SecureMX (www.smx.co.nz). Richard works for Blue Train Software (http://www.bluetrainsoftware.com)

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