On this episode, we talked with Jonathan Younie, aka @InfosecCanuck. Younie is a CISO for a financial services firm and a social engineer. He talks with us about his experience at the recent Human Hacking Conference, and the lessons he brought back for his own company's social engineering training. Younie has also created and is a part of social engineering and OSINT professional networking groups on Clubhouse and Slack. Younie also gives us a little bit of information about the upcoming ILF Fest, being run by the Innocent Lives Foundation and the associated "Sandwich of Suffering" that could be in Chris Hadnagy's future.