In this episode we unpack the work being led by Dominic Papa, Vice President of Smart State at the Arizona Commerce Authority. For over seven years Dominic has been helping lead the efforts in building the conditions for scaling smart cities success in the State of Arizona. First with the City of Phoenix, then with the Institute of Digital Progress and now with a collaborative public/private/academic partnership at the Arizona Commerce Authority. We talk tech, we talk data and we talk governance and resilience.