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A raw conversation on faith, lament, and God’s presence in life’s hardest seasons
What do you do when life feels like it’s falling apart, and God feels a million miles away?
In this powerful episode of the Light + Life Podcast, Liza Cunningham sits down with Pastor Matt Holtzman from the Caring Ministry team to talk honestly about what it’s like to feel “ghosted by God.” From seasons of marriage tension to ministry fatigue, grief, and walking alongside friends in the valley of the shadow of death, Matt opens up about the fog that can settle over our faith and how to find our way back to God’s presence.
Together, Liza and Matt explore:
If you’re in a season of loss, disappointment, or unanswered questions, or if you’re walking with someone who is. This conversation will remind you that God’s love shows up in the mess, and you are never alone.
✅ Tell God exactly how you feel—anger, doubt, grief, all of it
✅ Lean into the support of people who will hold you up
✅ Remember: Nothing can separate you from the love of God in Christ Jesus
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A raw conversation on faith, lament, and God’s presence in life’s hardest seasons
What do you do when life feels like it’s falling apart, and God feels a million miles away?
In this powerful episode of the Light + Life Podcast, Liza Cunningham sits down with Pastor Matt Holtzman from the Caring Ministry team to talk honestly about what it’s like to feel “ghosted by God.” From seasons of marriage tension to ministry fatigue, grief, and walking alongside friends in the valley of the shadow of death, Matt opens up about the fog that can settle over our faith and how to find our way back to God’s presence.
Together, Liza and Matt explore:
If you’re in a season of loss, disappointment, or unanswered questions, or if you’re walking with someone who is. This conversation will remind you that God’s love shows up in the mess, and you are never alone.
✅ Tell God exactly how you feel—anger, doubt, grief, all of it
✅ Lean into the support of people who will hold you up
✅ Remember: Nothing can separate you from the love of God in Christ Jesus

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