Wouter van Dieren is a Dutch activist who worked on the Limits to Grwoth book in the 1970s. Viktor Jaakkola is a member of the Finnish youth activist organization Operaatio Arktis, which works on communicating scientific knowledge. We discuss the perilous present climate situation and ways to perhaps stimulate greater public engagement, including with the participation of celebrities. For the video, audio podcast, and comments: https://tosavetheworld.ca/episode-633-lets-get-them-talking.