We are joined by our good friend, Sam Moses, who generally goes by Moses. He tells us two stories of phishing and vishing engagements. He talks about the OSINT he performed and shows its value. He takes us through the ups and downs of calling people and how sometimes, no matter how prepared you are, there can still be an unforeseen curve thrown at you. He also tells us about a really nice conversation with The Sweet Old Lady and all the fun information she shared with him. Moses also gives advice on how to defend against these types of calls and how someone can get started as a social engineer!