In this spoiler-packed breakdown of chapters 17–18 of A Court of Thorns and Roses, Ariel and Corryn are on their usual ish by holding two truths at once by finding humor through the heaviness of these chapters. The girls tackle both trauma and toxic masculinity while also cracking up over the fact that the wingless faerie looks like a character from Avatar and how the starlight pool in Tamlin’s glen is probably full of dead souls. It’s a lot. But so is Tamlin’s complete lack of flirting skills.

We break down how Tamlin is a prime example of how the patriarchy harms everyone, how his rizz levels are in the negative, and why characters like Tamlin and Eris can’t be boxed into clean villain or hero categories. Plus: was that dream of Amarantha actually a dream, or did a certain Night Court prince drop into Feyre’s nightmares?

Also in this episode: we question Lucien’s mother’s fertility (Seven kids? For a High Fae???), and officially add “SJM’s complex relationship with fathers” to the ever-growing list of authorial trademarks.

Whether you’re here for hot takes, haunted swimming holes, or High Fae conspiracy theories: you’re welcome and we’re sorry.

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