This is the first half of a podcast Doug recorded with Dillon of the Untrodden podcast. It includes comments from Doug along the way. 
Dillon defines himself as a "liberal," but by the end of the conversation, it is clear that he is a product of our authoritarian times and not self-reflective enough yet at the age of 21 to overcome the ideological machinery he's trapped in, even in terms of his own thought. 

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