John looks like the Unabomber and Ed's trying to write songs. They talk about extremeist groups, TED talks, the Zima of independent rock, Stephen Crane and Hart Crane, Jane Austen, and the noticing of small things, like, for instance, visibly hungover people in animal costumes. Follow links to Dean Ween on Guitar Moves, the socialist recording studio in the Lawrence Public Library, Skunk, the poems of Eric McHenry, Oaks Park, Tavern Books, and The Common.