Pakisa Tshimika is a Congolese public health doctor in Kinshasa, where he heads the Mama Makeka House of Hope. Neil Arya is a aily physician in Waterloo, Ontario and the founder of Pegasus, an institute for health care workers and social scientists. For the video, audio podcast, and comments: https://tosavetheworld.ca/episode-664-peace-and-health-in-congo.