Kathi Futornick and Mihael Caruso are Rotarians in Oregon, especially interested in environmental degradation caused by militarism. Kathi shows some slides that she'd used for a talk in Istaenbul recently, when thousands of other Rotarians gathered to discuss the same issue. For the video, auto podcast, and comments: https://tosavetheworld.ca/episode-665-rotarians-on-peace-and-environment.