We are on every fortnight, not on FortNite. And that is not Phil's pic. And apparently AL's interview is the best audio we have received from him yet. We chat to Phil Worrell about what really goes in when working on a cloud migration, what to look for, what the pitfalls are and how to remain sane.

As always, we bring you all the news from the last week and also Rod's epic "insert segment name here" segment!