In this episode of the IEEE Blockchain Podcast Series, we speak with JP Vergne, Associate Professor at University College London, School of Management. JP Vergne examines the evolution of capitalist societies since the early 17th century. In particular, he explores how socially contested organizations affect the renewal of industries at the vanguard of the economy. His award-winning research on piracy, on the global arms industry around 9/11, and on the rise of blockchain-powered organizations has been published in leading academic journals as well as in two books.