On this podcast Neville Wakefield talks to the artist Manal AlDowayan about her artwork Now You See Me, Now You Don't. Its inspiration comes from the puddles that form and quickly disappear in the AlUla desert. Its form is made up of several black circles of different sizes, which on closer inspection reveal themselves to be trampolines. The piece is a serious commentary on visibility, water scarcity and the declining aquifer delivered with an interactive experience that is sheer fun. During the installation, "every morning I would find all the workers on the site jumping on the trampolines," recalls AlDowayan. "The curators used to come for therapy session jumping. And so I welcome everybody and try to keep everybody healthy and happy."