On this episode of The Dream + Thrive podcast, I sit down and have a great layered conversation with my bestie, Dr. Kirleen Neely. If you have been feeling like your expertise doesn't matter or that you have to spend hours on social media just to gain visibility for your work, then this episode is a must listen for you. Plus, she debunks some brand building myths that will have you breathing a sigh of relief! I can't wait for you to listen in on my conversation with one of my favorite people in the whole world, Dr. Kirleen Neely!