In this episode, co-hosts Derrick Harris (ArchiTECHt) and Barb Darrow (Fortune) interview Sam Ghods, co-founder and systems architect at Box, about his company's migration from a PHP monolith to microservices. Ghods details why Box chose Kubernetes as the foundation of its new backend, and why he believes containers can bring about a cloud computing nirvana where developers don't worry about servers and workloads can move freely among platforms.

In the news segment, Barb and Derrick break down Google's big Cloud Spanner database announcement and Amazon's collaboration-focused Chime product, among other topics.