On this week's episode, commercial editor Emma Gleason and creative and fashion director Dan Ahwa are pairing up as winter illnesses bite the team. But they have more cheerful winter news to discuss as it's the winter fashion issue of Viva - with plenty of colourful knitwear options and Otago photoshoots to warm you up.

Plus, Deadly Ponies founder Liam Bowden stops by to discuss the label's brand new footwear, and Emma and Dan go deep on the rise of Barbiecore, the influx of nostalgia we're seeing - and why the Prime Minister should be able to wear whatever she wants!

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