Ignore the hypnotic drumming in the background (NYC Ambiance!) and listen in as Sarah and John discuss the rumblings from insiders about the need for a third party, Sarah's obsession with downhill skiing, Charles Dickens, and Jackie Salit's debut as James Madison in the off-Broadway Fred Newman musical "Sally and Tom."

Episode 8 will be listener driven, so e-mail your questions/comments/thoughts/ideas to [email protected]