In this episode, Celine Schillinger, CEO of We Need Social joins us to discuss her work on engagement leadership and how leaders can create engagement, belonging, and connection in the current environment. Celine shares some great tactical advice on facilitating deliberate conversations rather than defaulting to existing processes. We discuss her 4 cardinal points, the need for deliberate choices, the importance of focusing on the social fabric, why cultivating empathy is so important, and the balance between action and sensemaking.