Today's guest Derek Hart has an interesting backstory. He fell in love with hunting at a young age, but had very little success and had to forgo hunting for a football career. Derek ended up playing with the Green Bay Packers as the long snapper before shifting to an engineering career. Zach met Derek when they both worked for a previous company and they went to Michigan to hunt together. Derek ended up taking his first ever buck on the trip and has since become OBSESSED with chasing whitetail bucks in Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Topics discussed include how the NFL hiring process works, pushing through the struggles of bad seasons, a winning mentality, the feeling of getting your first deer, staying fit for deer season, and Derek's plans for this fall.

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