It's inevitable that all of us will face times of disappointment, discouragement or burnout. During those times, the answer isn't necessarily a vacation, or some alone time, or to buy yourself something nice. In our interview, Pastor Sam shares how having hope is one of the keys to thriving for the long haul. And not only is hope important, it's something that you can actively increase. It's not just an emotion that you feel when things are great. What are some ways that we can actively increase our hope despite difficult circumstances?

Today, we talk to Pastor Sam about a seminar he gave during our Volunteer's Conference in January to help equip and motivate our church servants. In this interview, we talk through the "Hope Quotient" by Ray Johnston.

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Intro and Outro Music: Neo Soul and Funk Guitars by Cloud Chord