Episode 7 takes on the topic Andrew has been itching to argue. The death of software as we know it. The guest is Eilon Shalev, CEO and co-founder of Elphi, the show's first guest from MIT, and a self-described business graduate who is not a software engineer.

That last part is the whole point. Eilon now builds end-to-end features inside his company's actual codebase, tests them himself, and hands a working product to his senior engineers to ship. Not a demo. Not a wireframe. Real code. From there the three of them follow the thread. If a non-engineer can build the feature, what is the engineer for? Eilon's answer reframes the job around architecture, judgment, and prompts, not typing code. Then it gets weird and fun: a hundred years out, custom LLMs, neural links, two societies, and whether you are the product.