In this episode, Destini and T. J. discuss how good mental health and spirituality can co-exist in the Church today and some of the challenges to integrating better mental health awareness and practices in the Church.  They share some of their own negative experiences in how the Church has framed mental health and used things like shame as a mechanism along with ideologies like "Jesus and nothing else" that create a dynamic that can be stressful and unhelpful.  Join the conversation at idiopod.com.  Submit your comments and questions at [email protected].  Rate, review, and subscribe!