Performance, praise, perfection—what happens when they’re not enough? In episode seven, Nicole Zasowski talks with Sarah about how she had built an identity and a career based on her achievements. She notes how she “treated God like a vending machine,” which even worked for a while—until it didn’t. A cross-country move became the turning point when Nicole’s carefully curated life began to crumble, and Nicole began to ask God some difficult questions. In this conversation, Nicole and Sarah talk about career, loss, identity, miscarriage, and how to hope when your hands are empty.

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