There is something else that makes the music, other than melody, rhythm, harmony and lyrics. Many musicians say it is impossible to play improvisational music at a high level without a strong spiritual base. One must believe to create complicated music on the spot and life-long musicians who play jazz seem to rely on a higher power for their energy and drive. Derek Zinger and David Basse discuss the depth that musicians such as Ahmad Alaadeen and Jay Migliori of Super Sax get to with their music.