*Mental Health Disclaimer- The ideas expressed are solely those on the podcast and should not be viewed as psychological advice or therapy.

You should consult your mental health specialist regarding applying the issues discussed in the podcast to your personal life.

Show Notes:

0:00- Intro

1:50- Start of conversation

3:13- Steve shares his story

6:59- Paul on how suffering can be grace

8:26- Steve on gratitude

11:45- Steve talks about the importance of play!

15:30- Paul talks about the story behind "The Curse is Broken"

19:13- Steve talks about being healed "from the inside out"

21:41- Paul on his parent's divorce

22:22- Steve talks about how we heal

23:50- Paul talks about the healing he's received from being a people pleaser

25:05- Steve talks more about being set free from being a people pleaser

27:05- Paul on shame and self-forgiveness

30:09- Steve on shame and legalism

33:43- Steve on how childhood trauma can carry into marriage and how to counter it

35:31- Paul on how being a people pleaser never helps in marriage

36:50- Steve talks about prevalent issues in marriage

39:42- Paul on how healing is both instantaneous and a life-long process

42:02- Steve talks more about the process of healing

43:51- Paul on how his relationship with Jesus was healed

46:01- Steve on the true antidote for fear

50:44- Paul on the power of the present moment

51:40- Paul and Steve on the confidence they possess and maintain even in the face of death

56:28- Conclusion

58:12- Live acoustic performance of "The Curse is Broken"