In this episode, Kishore Mahbubani speaks with Sarang Shidore of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, Washington DC, on the trajectory of US-China relations under the Biden Administration, from the perspective of Asia and ASEAN. This discussion covers the changing trajectory of the bilateral relations, how the Biden Administration has been different (if at all) from the Trump administration on China, the impact of the Ukraine conflict, as well as of Nancy Pelosi's ongoing visit to Taiwan, and how all of this affects ASEAN.