In this episode we are joined by James Mant, Director of Places and Precincts at the Department of Environment, Land, Water and Planning in the Victorian government. As one of the nation's leading policy makers and advocates for 20min neighbourhoods, it is a timely catch up with James to discuss post-COVID musings on the relationships between people and place, and how the 20min neighbourhood model can be an underpinning of smarter and more sustainable communities.