Tired of defeatist, nihilistic conversations about climate change? Same. That's why this week, we invited climate writer Kate Aronoff to talk brass tacks about where the Biden administration falls short, the new bipartisan face of climate denial, and how social movements may have the power to do what captured legislators won't. Kate walks us through the structural impediments to enacting climate regulation that really works, and she explains how our legal and regulatory system has been rigged to make sure we keep paying for the harms from which corporate polluters profit. We can't capitalism our way out of this one. Kate explains why.

Also in this episode: Brie tries to make Virgil sad with maudlin southeast Asian commercials, Andrew Yang comments on Israel, and the gang talks about going to Japan..

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Find Kate's forthcoming book Overheated: How Capitalism Broke the Planet -- And How We Fight Back right here.

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