Ed and John have returned after long sojourns to discuss the dude on the airplane tail, pie, Seattle's great Danish bakery, hatchets too nice to use, Thanksgiving, lard, and the irresistibility of drunk poets. Follow links to the old Alaska Airlines logo, the new one, forum discussion of Chester Seevek, John's hotel pics, Kate's Whiskey Maple Pecan Pie recipe, Larsen's Bakery, Mike and Mike's Guitar Bar, Reuben Reuben, A Fine Madness, and poetry by Mark Nowak, Wong May, and Etel Adnan.