Rax and Amber are joined by Phoebe Roy (host of 10K Posts Pod and Masters of Our Domain) to talk about The Queen of Pop and Reinvention, the one, the many, Madonna. We talk about how, even though Madonna might not be the best singer or dancer, she is pure charisma. Also, she is the best singer to dance with female family members to. Lastly, we hear Phoebe's brilliant take on celebrities and sort of unintentionally end on a ga ga ga ga gripe zooooone!