To give fans a view of how she makes music, Thao Nguyen is documenting the recording of her sixth album on Substack. Jordan and Demi talk to the singer-songwriter about the effect this has had on the development of the album and how it has made her more disciplined. Nguyen is also using the platform to speak out on hate crimes against Asian Americans, a cause she has been passionate about since experiencing harassment as a child in Northern Virginia.