Today I'm joined by AJ Santillan, bassist of the New Jersey screamo band Massa Nera and an old friend from college. Massa Nera's second album "Derremar|Querer|Borrar|" comes out on December 2nd. It's a great album, mixing long-form screamo with mind-bending electronic experimentation. I was psyched to talk to AJ about how she joined Massa Nera, transitioning during the pandemic, how the screamo scene has changed over the years and more!

https://massanera.bandcamp.com/