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Episode 72: Teaching Testing and Design

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Teaching Testing and Design
Guests
  • Betsy Haibel: CTO at Cohere. Blogs at betsyhaibel.com.
  • Avdi Grimm: Head Chef at RubyTapas. Blogs at avdi.codes.
  • Penelope Phippen: Works at Google, makes Rubyfmt, helps make RSpec, and is on the board of Ruby Central. Blog.
    • Summary

    After the discussions on testing and design in episodes 68 and 69, I had so much I still wanted to talk about in testing, design, and teaching testing and design. So I convened a panel with previous Tech Done Right Guests Avdi Grimm, Betsy Haibel, and Penelope Phippen to help me think through all these topics. I was very happy to have all of them on the show, and I think it's a great conversation. Stay tuned until the very end for an update about the show.

    Related Episodes with These Guests
    • Avdi: 20 Years of Web Development, Ruby Tapas and Avoiding Code
    • Betsy: Diverse Agile Teams, How Set Design Can Inform Software Architecture
    • Penelope: Code Style and Community, Back in the Testing Weeds, In The Testing Weeds
      • Notes

      00:50 - Previously On: Re: Testing

      • Pragmatic Programmer at 20 with Dave Thomas and Andy Hunt
      • Teaching and Learning with Sandi Metz

        • 02:53 - Testing and Design

        • 99 Bottles of OOP

          • 05:43 - TDD

        • Test Driven Development

        • Do We Need Constants

          • 09:36 - Testing, But Not Developer Testing + Sliming The Test

          • WikiWikiWeb

            • 13:41 - Why + How Did You Learn TDD?

            20:24 - TDD: Not a Robust Process

            24:19 - Rails + Unit Testing

            27:41 - Is TDD really dead?

            35:06 - Keeping Code In Your Head

            37:32 - Approaching the Testing and Design of Code

            38:59 - What would convince you to stop doing TDD?

            Special Guests: Avdi Grimm, Betsy Haibel, and Penelope Phippen.

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