On this Episode Mike is joined by APS executive director Claire Bishop as they talk with Joe Bednar, registered lobbyist and attorney with Spencer Fane. Joe served nearly seven years as Chief Legal Counsel to the late Governor Mel Carnahan and Governor Roger B. Wilson.  He also served as Special Counsel to former Governor Robert Lee Holden.

On this Episode Mike is joined by APS executive director Claire Bishop as they talk with Joe Bednar, registered lobbyist and attorney with Spencer Fane. Joe served nearly seven years as Chief Legal Counsel to the late Governor Mel Carnahan and Governor Roger B. Wilson. He also served as Special Counsel to former Governor Robert Lee Holden.

On this Episode Mike is joined by APS executive director Claire Bishop as they talk with Joe Bednar, registered lobbyist and attorney with Spencer Fane. Joe served nearly seven years as Chief Legal Counsel to the late Governor Mel Carnahan and Governor Roger B. Wilson.&nbsp; He also served as Special Counsel to former Governor Robert Lee Holden. &nbsp;

Episode #72: Words Create Worlds

At the Square is American Public Square at Jewell's (APS) podcast channel. You'll find our series 'Both Sides', Student podcast episodes, and live event recordings. At the Square podcasts cover topics that correspond to APS programs and events while providing context and additional information on the issues. Episodes feature fact-based, civil conversations between experts and APS staff members.

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