The twins are back - and down the rabbit hole they go, talking about everything from quirky South African phrases and spy ballons, music gear and grandsons, Todd Bridges' recent visit to Myrtle Beach and much more - including a new musical snippet from Chris.

SHOW NOTES:

0:00 - "Way Back Home" by Chris Yale - Snippet

2:03 - Greetings and about the song / Roland V-Drums / EZdrummer

3:15 - "UZZUT" explained / South African expressions

4:38 - Flaccid balloon / Chris saw Chinese spy balloon shot down in Myrtle Beach / Richard Branson's balloon adventures / Balloon Boy Hoax / More about Chinese balloon

7:23 - Roger's baby grandon, Anderson / The Grandfather Club

8:40 - Roger's solo gigs at LuLu's North Myrtle Beach / Recent aborted gig / Barefoot Landing

10:18 - Chris' guitar adventures / Acoustic Fly Rig / Electric Fly Rig / California Blonde amp

11:28 - Chris on a roll / Anxiety?

11:58 - More Chinese balloon / Surveillance is a two-way street

13:00 - Roger's free associations: Bela Fleck / The Smithereens / Dave Matthews' Satellite"

13:30 - Todd Bridges / HGTC Addiction and Recovery Lecture Series / Chris' memories of Todd Bridges at Hollywood Professional School / Todd's recovery story / Killing Willis book / Casey King / Read Roger's blog post HERE.

15:50 - Chris and Logic Pro / Howard Jones versus Howard Johnson's / Nostalgia / Misophonia

17:53 - More about Todd Bridges

19:47 - The slow season in Myrtle Beach

20:34 - The Master Key System by Charles F. Haanel / Steven Tyler memoir / American Colonies by Alan Taylor / Penguin Press / Burgess Meredith as The Penguin

22:22 - Mike Nichols documentary / The White Lotus / Aubrey Plaza / Emily the Criminal

24:25 - Sleep hangover

24:46 - Parting shots / Chris' gear / Fearless moral inventory / Government Mule / Lekker Eats in Myrtle Beach