Layer 8 Podcast

Episode 74: Robin Dreeke - Social Engineering Tradecraft


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TW: Brief discussion of sexual assault/abuse.

For this episode, we got to speak with Robin Dreeke, a 29 year veteran of federal service, including the US Naval Academy, US Marine Corps and the head of the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program. Robin owns https://peopleformula.com where he offers skills, newsletters, training classes and his books. In this conversation, we reference his books as we talk about building rapport and Robin's five basic principles of trust: 1) Suspend Your Ego, 2) Be Nonjudgemental, 3) Validate Others, 4) Honor Reason, 5) Be Generous. 

Robin's books discussed in the episode are: 

  • It's Not All About "Me"
  • Sizing People Up
  • Code of Trust
  • When we discuss validation, we referenced a video on YouTube that demonstrates the concept titled "It's Not About the Nail".

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