In today's conversation, Pastor Rodney interviews Pastor Eli Garcia of The Church - Lawton, who shares his journey from being a police officer to planting a church where they have experienced rapid growth. Despite early financial challenges, they trusted God's provision and started a debt campaign to become a debt-free church. They witnessed God's faithfulness as unexpected resources came in and needs were met. Through it all, he emphasizes the importance of trusting God and walking by faith.