Ernie Svenson grew up in New Orleans, Louisiana. His parents divorced when he was young, and he quickly found himself a pawn in his parents' custody battle. His dad was a psychoanalyst who manipulated Ernie to achieve selfish desires. Ernie knew he was being manipulated, but had little wiggle room to react due to his age.

In this episode, Mark and Ernie talk about the challenges of being a litigation attorney, the importance of having a good relationship with your therapist, and how the thing that makes us as humans really happy is helping other people.